Post by hyv3mynd on Jul 12, 2010 19:27:19 GMT -5
So we played 3 of the GT Primer missions Saturday at the tourney. Here's my feedback, experiences, and some things I heard from others.
Mission #1 was one of the ones I wrote - Mission Impossible. I actually think it went very well except for losing at my own mission by misplacing my gaunt squad by 3". A lot of people started out iffy, but most feedback by the end was positive. One player experienced the hard way that a Land Raider deployed 12" up could potentially, move another 12", disembark 2", assault 6", win, and consolidate onto the objective. Orks and DE could potentially do the same thing. Drop pods could chance unlodaing their troops and running up also. After thinking it over, I still don't think the mission is imbalanced. You know at the beginning that the only way to win is protect your objective. You are told to start with one unit touching the objective and pinned. If you are worried about them not holding the objective safely, bubble wrap it better with vehicles or infantry. It had to be placed 6" in. Assault transports can be deployed up to 12" up, move 12", jump out 2-3", assault 6" (marines and orks) on t1, d6" further for DE. That's 33" covered of a distance of 42" to the enemy's objective so only DE with 12" assault should be able to get first turn cap if you deploy smartly. You can't consolidate off of vehicles, so plopping tanks in front ensures nobody gets it t1. I do need to enter clarification on "Strike Force" deep striking and outflanking if they already have dedicated trasports that allow it, but that's a minor change.
Mission #2 was one of Jay/Courtney's "Devastation". I like this one as it weighs VP's and KP's equally and adds a secret objective for flavor. My only observation here is the option of controlling the center of the board is noticeably easier to accomplish than the other two. Choosing the center of the board also gives you an easy way to spill over and contest quarters, blocking your opponent from choosing that one. The third option of entering your enemy's deployment zone if made more difficult bu the triangular deployment zone. This would be more balanced with Pitched Battle or DoW deployment IMO.
3rd mission was "Spear's Head" and I heard the most complaining about this one. Again, the triangular/short edge deployment made this even more challenging. Also, it was pretty much an auto-lose for all shooting lists. My IG opponent had to choose between sitting and shooting only chancing a win by tabling me, or moving forward right into a tyranid swarm, and losing shooting dice off all his vehicles. Again, I think pitched battle or DoW would have made this more balanced.
Out of the 5 tourneys I've now played in, this was the most fun for me even though I lost my first game. The missions were dynamic and different. Several core players were using different lists than they usually use also which gave it a fresh feeling for me at least.
Mission #1 was one of the ones I wrote - Mission Impossible. I actually think it went very well except for losing at my own mission by misplacing my gaunt squad by 3". A lot of people started out iffy, but most feedback by the end was positive. One player experienced the hard way that a Land Raider deployed 12" up could potentially, move another 12", disembark 2", assault 6", win, and consolidate onto the objective. Orks and DE could potentially do the same thing. Drop pods could chance unlodaing their troops and running up also. After thinking it over, I still don't think the mission is imbalanced. You know at the beginning that the only way to win is protect your objective. You are told to start with one unit touching the objective and pinned. If you are worried about them not holding the objective safely, bubble wrap it better with vehicles or infantry. It had to be placed 6" in. Assault transports can be deployed up to 12" up, move 12", jump out 2-3", assault 6" (marines and orks) on t1, d6" further for DE. That's 33" covered of a distance of 42" to the enemy's objective so only DE with 12" assault should be able to get first turn cap if you deploy smartly. You can't consolidate off of vehicles, so plopping tanks in front ensures nobody gets it t1. I do need to enter clarification on "Strike Force" deep striking and outflanking if they already have dedicated trasports that allow it, but that's a minor change.
Mission #2 was one of Jay/Courtney's "Devastation". I like this one as it weighs VP's and KP's equally and adds a secret objective for flavor. My only observation here is the option of controlling the center of the board is noticeably easier to accomplish than the other two. Choosing the center of the board also gives you an easy way to spill over and contest quarters, blocking your opponent from choosing that one. The third option of entering your enemy's deployment zone if made more difficult bu the triangular deployment zone. This would be more balanced with Pitched Battle or DoW deployment IMO.
3rd mission was "Spear's Head" and I heard the most complaining about this one. Again, the triangular/short edge deployment made this even more challenging. Also, it was pretty much an auto-lose for all shooting lists. My IG opponent had to choose between sitting and shooting only chancing a win by tabling me, or moving forward right into a tyranid swarm, and losing shooting dice off all his vehicles. Again, I think pitched battle or DoW would have made this more balanced.
Out of the 5 tourneys I've now played in, this was the most fun for me even though I lost my first game. The missions were dynamic and different. Several core players were using different lists than they usually use also which gave it a fresh feeling for me at least.
