Skulls for the Skull Throne

[Garou24]

I am working on designing my next army. Its Khorne Chaos army. I want it to be all really centered around Khorne, having each unit have some sort of khorne flavor.

The question is what is khorne flavor? My experience with khorne is limited to the new codex for chaos. It states that khorne followers like to kill things, anything really, in the name of their god. I plan on building my own custon Kharn the betrayer and having a couple berserkers etc. But would a khorne army be able to take units like raptors or havocs? According to the new codex, its not a problem, but I knew in the past codex units liek that were not available to khorne armys.

So the real question is, Raptors or havocs? Are they fluffy in a khorne army?

[Ranger Dude]

It kind of depends on how far back you go to read the fluff. Used to be Khorne worshippers worshipped warfare in all it's forms. Now, most people assosciate Khorne with Frothing looneys. With current fluff, I'd have no problem with raptors, but havocs would be an issue. With older fluff, wouldn't matter either way. Personally, my preference is for the older fluff, with the berzerkers being the ones who have fallen to the frothing looney end of things.

[Garou24]

I think I will toss the Havocs then, and use a Defiler and Predator for my Heavy support. Since the army is all about getting in the thick of things, i can have my Berserkers and troops and possessed running around and my raptors can fly up and jump in where needed. Khorne seems more up close and personal hand to hand, so the havocs shooting from afar was a stretch.

[evil_red_orks]

Now i dont know chaos or any fluff. However when I think Khorne, im seeing raving lunatics running all over the place. If i played Khorne then im playing 3-4 maxed out squads running all over the place on the board. IMHO raptors and havocs would be kinda prissy for Khorne(and by prissy I mean in a Shaun Kemp sorta way).

I think bikes would fit in alot better than raptors, cause they still beserkers but they just on bikes.

[Garou24]

The berserkers for khorne is a troop choice. I have two squads of them. I wanted something for fast attack, and since I absolutly HATE the bike models for marines, I figured raptors would fit. They will have the mark of khorne and can jetpack up and drop in combat with chainswords and pistols. The army is geared towards CC so the berserkser and chaos marines and possessed will running around all over the place still. In a higher point game I will add a unit of terminators and add a chaos lord and set them up for CC.

If the raptors don't fit then I guess i can add another squad of marines.

[Norton]

If i were to do Khornate army, using Stand fluff. (Not those punchy looney's from the recent books) it would look something like this.


Kharne, Ichiban #1 asskicker !
175 ish points

Greater deamon of khorne, greater deamons are horrible OK these days, but for thier points, are a solid investment, and nothing screams KHORNE!!! Like the bloodthirster model.
100ish


8 Bezerkers in a rhino with a champ with pwr sword, couple dudes with plasmas.
250 ish

8 Bezerkers in a rhino with a champ with pwr sword, couple dudes with plasmas.
250 ish

16 Marines with mark of Khorne, 2x assault weapons, champ with fist. Walking.
250ish

16 Marines with mark of Khorne, 2x assault weapons, champ with fist. Walking.
250ish


8 deamons, Play them as the old blood letters, still a solid choice.
100ish

8 deamons, Play them as the old blood letters, still a solid choice.
100ish

8 Raptors, champ with claws, assault weapon of choice
200ish

Predator destructor, lazcannons, hvy terrain mod.
160ish

Defilor, extra arms x2, Cannon.
150ish

Should be around 2000 points total.
Maybe stick a Shooty Dready in for another 150 ish to round it off to 2150.

Lots of fighty, with a bit of classic shooty.
I would think this is a fairly balanced Khone ish army.

Any thoughts?

[Garou24]

Most of what I have to work with is from the new battle box and the new army box.

So my list would look something like this.

Kharne the betrayer

Chaos lord, termi armor, Daemon weapon

5 terminators, mark of khorne

10 possessed marines, mark of khorne, rhino

8 berserkers, champ, power weapon plasma pistol, rhino

8 berserkers, champ, power weapon plasma pistol, rhino

10 chaos marines, Mark of Khorne, champ, power weapon, plasma pistol, 2 flamers

5 Raptors, Mark of Khorne, champ with claws, 2 melta guns

Defiler

Predator

I plan on using the possessed wings and normal chaos marines to make my raptors. This allows me to use the parts i got for christmas and turn them into a fluffy Khorne army. I am new to chaos and only have the new Codex to go off of, which seems like they pulled alot of the earlier fluff.

[Norton]

You might have a bit of trouble collecting enough of those possessed wings to make a unit. They're pretty hard to come by and only come 2 to a box.

[Garou24]

I get 5 possessed with 2 wings in the battle force,a nd 5 more with 2 wings in the army box. So for my 10 man possesed unit I un their normal warped backpacks. That give me 4 wings for my raptor. So I only need one more.

[Fenrisulfr]

Well, to get your collections started, I have one of the winged backpacks for you. ....now just what is it worth to you? (insert evil laugh here) ;D

[Garou24]

You know those two space wolves of yours I have?

I guess I could leave them out for the cat-o-doom to chew on ;D

[Fenrisulfr]

LOL Dude, I've seen your "cat" I think it would have trouble with the Rune Priest. I'm not even sure that sickly kitty could pick him up.

....Now my dogs Booker and Ronin...They can really destroy a model.

[Garou24]

Looks like your Space Wolves after playing against my necrons!

[Fenrisulfr]

yup...I'm still looking for all the pieces from that one.

[jdubb]

..Now my dogs Booker and Ronin...They can really destroy a model.

ouch, that sucks.

The question is what is khorne flavor?

Khorne to me is:

• Mark of Khorne (duh)
  
• Extremely Assault focused
  
• Plasma
  
• Juggernauts
  
• Red, Brass, Gold, Gore for colors
  
• Chain Axes
  
• Counts of 8
  
• Bloodthirster
  

Stuff that is long range, not so much. Though, even if it's not in flavor, you could do Havocs in squads of 8.

For a Dread and Defiler, going with 2 close combat arms makes a lot of sense!