Post by honsou on Jul 18, 2010 23:23:34 GMT -5
High Elves were good, d**n good in 7th edition, but with the current rule changes, and the adjusted always strikes first rules, these bad boys take the cake. First off, now that they get re-rolls due to ASF, in most instances they now outdo dark elves on the grounds they have the same armywide rule, except the good guys get ASF instead of just re-rolls...yay
Star Dragons no longer take up hero slots, oh well no big deal, now that i dont see them as viable at 2250 if it stays there, but at 2500 where you have room to take a commander w the d6 combat res BS..It seems that Star Dragons will stay the same: prince w halberd, vambraces of defense+armour of caledor, maybe dragon helm now, but until we see what the popular points level is i think ill leave mine on the shelf..
I will go into greater detail on more lord/hero builds some other time, but i havnt had a chance to play more than 2 games with high elves recently...
Although id like to point and laugh at demon mages, and kairos now, they dont hold a candle to teclis
Now lets get down to the nitty gritty on 8th ed teclis. First, his price makes him playable at 2k points because of the 25% rule. Since all casters pull from the same pool and Teclis generates +D3 power and dispel dice every turn, this helps immensely. Teclis was a greedy little bastard to begin with when it comes to magic, so this works heavily in our favor. In 8th, you’ll only see 1-2 casters in most lists simply because the bonus to cast and dispel much more important on big casters. Annulian Crystal, move aside. +D3 possible dispel dice per turn with his +5 innate dispel is huge. To make things even better, Teclis still has his uber forget scroll when no other Archmage can take a arcane item and a dispel scroll. Now comes the big winner: Teclis scores IF on any doubles and his Warhelm of Saphery dispels his first miscast every turn. Now how magic works in 8th Ed is that when you IF, you lose control and miscast. Also when you IF, it doesn’t matter if you hit the casting value or not, the spell will go off regardless. So let’s say you want to cast the 20+ version of the uber Beast spell and turn yourself into the Dragon. Now you can on a roll of 1,1 and 2 if you throw 3 dice at it. If you lose control because you throw double 6s, good for you. The spell still goes off but the warhelm prevents the miscast. See where I’m going with this? Either the Book of Hoeth and Teclis need a errata or they’re going to be absolutely hated. The fact that the entry for BoH and Teclis both state that IF goes off on any doubles on “any successful casting roll” means that by RAW, they must hit the 20+ need to cast.. but then again, the BRB specifically states that IF causes the spell to go off whether or not it hits the casting value or not. We will definitely need a errata on this one!
Star Dragons no longer take up hero slots, oh well no big deal, now that i dont see them as viable at 2250 if it stays there, but at 2500 where you have room to take a commander w the d6 combat res BS..It seems that Star Dragons will stay the same: prince w halberd, vambraces of defense+armour of caledor, maybe dragon helm now, but until we see what the popular points level is i think ill leave mine on the shelf..
I will go into greater detail on more lord/hero builds some other time, but i havnt had a chance to play more than 2 games with high elves recently...
Although id like to point and laugh at demon mages, and kairos now, they dont hold a candle to teclis
Now lets get down to the nitty gritty on 8th ed teclis. First, his price makes him playable at 2k points because of the 25% rule. Since all casters pull from the same pool and Teclis generates +D3 power and dispel dice every turn, this helps immensely. Teclis was a greedy little bastard to begin with when it comes to magic, so this works heavily in our favor. In 8th, you’ll only see 1-2 casters in most lists simply because the bonus to cast and dispel much more important on big casters. Annulian Crystal, move aside. +D3 possible dispel dice per turn with his +5 innate dispel is huge. To make things even better, Teclis still has his uber forget scroll when no other Archmage can take a arcane item and a dispel scroll. Now comes the big winner: Teclis scores IF on any doubles and his Warhelm of Saphery dispels his first miscast every turn. Now how magic works in 8th Ed is that when you IF, you lose control and miscast. Also when you IF, it doesn’t matter if you hit the casting value or not, the spell will go off regardless. So let’s say you want to cast the 20+ version of the uber Beast spell and turn yourself into the Dragon. Now you can on a roll of 1,1 and 2 if you throw 3 dice at it. If you lose control because you throw double 6s, good for you. The spell still goes off but the warhelm prevents the miscast. See where I’m going with this? Either the Book of Hoeth and Teclis need a errata or they’re going to be absolutely hated. The fact that the entry for BoH and Teclis both state that IF goes off on any doubles on “any successful casting roll” means that by RAW, they must hit the 20+ need to cast.. but then again, the BRB specifically states that IF causes the spell to go off whether or not it hits the casting value or not. We will definitely need a errata on this one!