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Post by Norton on Oct 15, 2009 12:05:23 GMT -5
So here is my latest rendition of the Saurus horde approach to lizardmen. only 2 hq's, just the 1 magic user, 1 stegadon, etc. then the rest is filled with rank and file.
Anything to change to make it more or less effective?
2250 Pts - Lizardmen Roster
1 Slann Mage-Priest @ 340 pts (General; Battle Standard Bearer) 1 Plaque of Tepok 1 Dispel Scroll 1 The Focused Rumination
1 Saurus Scar-Veteran @ 117 pts (Hand Weapon; Halberd; Light Armour; Shield; Scaly Skin) Cold One
15 Saurus Warriors @ 183 pts (Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Hand Weapon; Shield; Scaly Skin)
18 Saurus Warriors @ 234 pts (Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Hand Weapon; Spear; Shield; Scaly Skin)
18 Saurus Warriors @ 234 pts (Musician Mus; Standard Bearer Std; Hand Weapon; Spear; Shield; Scaly Skin)
10 Skink Skirmishers @ 70 pts
10 Skink Skirmishers @ 70 pts
11 Skinks and 1 kroxigor s @ 110 pts
6 Cold One Cavalry @ 210 pts
3 Terradon Rider @ 90 pts
3 Kroxigor @ 165 pts
2 Salamander Hunting Pack @ 150 pts
1 Ancient Stegadon @ 275 pts
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Post by skyth on Oct 15, 2009 12:25:42 GMT -5
Honestly, in the effectiveness category, I would lose the Cold one Cav (And put the Scar vet on foot, give him the enchanted shield and treefrog venom). They are a cool unit (And yes, I use them) but they really die too easily. Having the Scar vet on foot gives you the ability to take lore of Shadows and not regret it. (Right now, you have nothing you can use the default spell on).
Kroxies should be 4 strong (Mathematically what it takes to get 5 wounds on the charge).
If you are running your priest by himself, you probably want the 2+ ward save item. If you are running him in a unit of Saurus, you probably would want the regen or ethereal disciplines. T4 with a 4+ ward save is not all that resilient, especially if you have an entire unit shooting at him. I wouldn't run him with regular Saurus because he takes away 4 or 8 attacks.
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Post by Wolf Lord Snorville on Oct 15, 2009 13:25:38 GMT -5
put them on round bases and call them orks! ;D
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Post by johnboo on Oct 16, 2009 20:27:04 GMT -5
Norton, that a pretty light duty list...way lighter that Ive ever fielded and you know my army lists!
I cant see anyone raising a stink about your list.
Just some things to chew on:
Bargain outlet slann right there. With no temple guard, he will be ranking up in front of saurus units, not the middle. Consider the immune to mundane attacks discipline.
Not sure of the value of an ancient over a regular steggy...
Might be new territory for you considering you've been playing VC for quite a while, but assuming the slann is in a saurus unit, you still are vunerable to fear autobreak.
My experience also has been 3 might be too small for a krox unit - nice flanker but for some reason every time i play 3 instead of 4 they get magicked/shot to uselessness. Maybe you're better at hiding them than me, try it out & we'll campare notes.
I got nothing on the CO cav, I dont own them but played vs them a handful...more often than not they have been nice VP for me thanks to stupidity...though the one time i did take them to the face and yeah, they can beat units from the front, especially if the slann can back them up with a buff spell.
Consider an extra handler to make the sallies 9 models. I just tried 2 units of single sallies & really liked the tactical options.
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Post by Norton on Oct 19, 2009 9:37:36 GMT -5
Last time i played this list i juggled some points and dropped the ancient to a normal. This let me up the slann to the 2+ vs ranged. Worked well till he died turn 5 to a Pit. The 3 krox unit has worked out ok so far. It doesnt beat face but it's a scary flanker and fairly fast. Might be a bit pricey for a flanking force though. When Boldo gets more skinks they will probably be split into 2 units of kroc/skink units instead.
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Post by boldo on Oct 19, 2009 14:12:36 GMT -5
I would make the krox into another skink and krox unit as it is cheaper and just as good with more versatility. I would also worry about fear on the slanns unit and find a way to fix this.
Boldo
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