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Post by Iron Warrior on Oct 15, 2010 17:18:41 GMT -5
For the love of....
Listen people, no one is every going to prohibit you from playing in a tournament with a list you like. You know full well what your walking into when you sign up and pay your money, or at least you should if your an educated gamer and you ask questions. But no matter how much some one may not like your list, you will never ever not be allowed to play it. Despite what people may think, or the paranoia of name calling and saying crap behind whos back.
Heres an anology for you. Your a Dolphins player, you play becuase you love the game, You come to Buffalo. They are going to hoot and hollar and boo at you. But your still going to go out on ther feild and play the game becuase its what you love to do. And guess what NO ONE is going to stop you from doing it. The locals may not like you but we all have a love for the game be it one side of the spectrum or the other. Some people are better sports than others thats just life, learn from it and move on. Stop talking to walls.
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Post by MajorSoB on Oct 15, 2010 22:52:43 GMT -5
Hey Aaron, say what you want, I still haven't heard a denial of what you said in regards to Chris. I read what you wrote on both Chumby's blog and your blog, as did as alot of other people here. If you want to hate on someone do it to their face not just in cyberspace. He does alot for the gaming and tournament scene in this area, donating his time and money to make it fun for everyone. I have personally seen him refuse prizes at several tournament so that they would go to a newer player who is just starting out. Chris is my friend and deserves more respect than he was given by you two, period. If you would like to continue this conversation I will be available at the GT, if not drop it.
Back on track...
Patrick, like I said, you are a good kid and alot of fun to play. You play whatever you like and I promise you that at the end of the weekend of the GT you will look back and recall all the fun you had playing regardless of where you finished or what your comp score turns out to be. Make a list that you enjoy playing and play that.
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Post by primarchpatrick on Oct 15, 2010 23:54:55 GMT -5
if i take yarrick, i could drop the command squad and ratlings and go with 70/120. The only reason i take command squads is because i like master of ordnance and the orders he gives. that will help out my comp, won't it?
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Post by primarchpatrick on Oct 15, 2010 23:58:10 GMT -5
or i could just say heck with it and use wolves. no just kidding. but servitors for mr. techy would help him. easier to repair vehicles and its a harder kill point. would that be bad for comp though?
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Post by chumbalaya on Oct 16, 2010 6:57:44 GMT -5
Yeesh, lots going on here.
IW's got the right of it, Aaron and Doug touched on it too before things got messy. Play what you like and have fun doing so, that's why we're in the hobby after all. You'll always get input from others, pro and anti comp. Weigh it against your own experiences/judgement and learn from it, but don't feel you're forced to play a certain way because somebody says so.
Doug, I don't know how much of my blog you've read, but if you had taken the time you'd see that I did and still do give Chris mad props for all he does for the hobby. I just had an awful time playing with him and I shared. It's no knock on him personally, I don't know the guy very well and he may very well have just had a bad day. It happens, but you still need to call it out to prevent further problems. It's not my emo corner (well, maybe some times), just my own little soapbox where I can talk about my lists, games, interests, and enjoy the awesome community of 40k bloggers.
Everybody on the internet is a jerk, that's just how things appear in a medium with no body language or inflection. How do I know this? I've met Stelek in person, Stelek; he was a friendly and courteous fellow. Just like I know you aren't a giant prickface IRL. I'm happy to give people the benefit of the doubt because 1 or 2 interactions in a high stress environment is not the best way to get the measure of a man. I'm always around, so anybody can feel free to talk to me if there's ever a problem.
Patrick, play what you like and keep having fun. That's most important. You've always got a game from me.
For your list itself, having a Commissar for your infantry blob would be handy. You don't want a boat load of guardsmen turning tail at the first sign of trouble. The odd power weapon would be handy too, making a 40 man stubborn blob a surprisingly effective CC unit. Servitors are a good pick to not only protect your Enginseer but also make his repairs useful.
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Post by primarchpatrick on Oct 16, 2010 9:20:19 GMT -5
uh, ive got an extra commissar i could use. Thanks guys. by the way, why are you guys fighting? i can't understand half of the stuff your saying.
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Post by hyv3mynd on Oct 16, 2010 10:25:58 GMT -5
Patrick ~ Sorry your thread got hijacked. If you can ignore the mudslinging, there is solid advice to be found on your list here. Hey Aaron, say what you want, I still haven't heard a denial of what you said in regards to Chris. I read what you wrote on both Chumby's blog and your blog, as did as alot of other people here. If you want to hate on someone do it to their face not just in cyberspace. He does alot for the gaming and tournament scene in this area, donating his time and money to make it fun for everyone. I have personally seen him refuse prizes at several tournament so that they would go to a newer player who is just starting out. Chris is my friend and deserves more respect than he was given by you two, period. If you would like to continue this conversation I will be available at the GT, if not drop it. Doug ~ Drop what exactly??? I wasn't even participating in this thread until YOU called me out by name. Scroll back through page 1, the proof's in the pudding. As it pertains to blogs and Chris. I deny nothing. But at least report the full context. I called him "The Kool-Aid King", yup. This was in reference to Chumby calling comp proponents "Kool-Aid Drinkers". It's an inside joke, based on Heaven's Gate cult, who drank poisonous Kool-Aid because their leader told them to. The whole analogy is based on our favorite subject, "comp" because it's a player created system which conflicts with the game's design and is forced on unwilling players in the form of penalized tournament scores. So I called him the "Kool-Aid King" because he is the biggest proponent of comp. He also berates people to their face if he doesn't approve of their list. I don't approve of his behaviour but I never insulted him. "Kood-Aid King" is hardly an insult in today's world, no matter how sensitive you are. If I made anyone cry, I apologize. If you did indeed read all of the associated blogs, you also noticed I gave Chris praise for having so many beautifully painted armies and providing so many beautiful tables worth of terrain for us to play on at Millennium. I even mentioned how he always places in the top of the pack with his comp lists. Since you've also never met me in person or know anything about me, I'll point out that when I started playing 40k back in March, I was talking to Chris on a weekly basis for list building and tactical advice. I admire people that can get results on the table, because IMO tournaments are about winning games. If you want to have painting competitions that's fine too, it's part of the hobby. As such, Chris, Jay, Terry, and Steve H., have been people I look up to as they deliver results on the table. I've even gone out of my way to try and get games with them because I haven't had the pleasure of drawing them in a tourney. So, if you're keeping track, I praised Chris three (3) times and criticized him once (1). We have the smack talk forum for a reason. Next time you have a problem with me, try to #1 - bring something more substantive and #2 - don't hijack a 12 year old's thread to call me out. Thanks. Sorry again Patrick.
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Post by ccourtney on Oct 16, 2010 13:01:53 GMT -5
I hope no one is looking for me to reply on any of this...
I told myself a while back that I will only post things in the future to promote the hobby and the DaBoyz group. I want this to be more of a positive site to discuss painting / modeling / terrain / tactics / and promote tournaments. I don't want people to read posts on our site and get a negative impression of our group or turn people off from getting into the hobby. We see each other at the store enough that if there are other issues they can be discussed there and taken care of face to face.
Back on the posts subject:
Patrick, my only advice I can give you about your list is if you are trying to score better composition then personally talk to the people who will be judging it.
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Post by evil_red_orks on Oct 16, 2010 14:20:21 GMT -5
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Post by chumbalaya on Oct 16, 2010 14:53:31 GMT -5
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Post by jay on Oct 16, 2010 15:23:43 GMT -5
Patrick, my only advice I can give you about your list is if you are trying to score better composition then personally talk to the people who will be judging it. Patrick, yes it will comp better without Yarrick but you have to ask yourself if you take yarrick can you make up the points in the missions?. This is part of the strategy of the event. I would also tell you just play what you want.
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Post by primarchpatrick on Oct 17, 2010 17:20:25 GMT -5
how does comp affect my game play?
Ooh, look! A bunny!
(\_/) (0.o) (> <)
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Post by MajorSoB on Oct 17, 2010 18:46:21 GMT -5
how does comp affect my game play? Ooh, look! A bunny! (\_/) (0.o) (> <) Drop Yarrick and play the bunny! I think a guard army definitely needs more bunnies. Bunnies FTW!!!! ( Thanks for making us laugh Patrick!)
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Post by primarchpatrick on Oct 17, 2010 20:20:00 GMT -5
who should teh bunny be? commissar bunny?
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Post by primarchpatrick on Oct 17, 2010 20:34:41 GMT -5
mousey too <:3 )~ skater O-\-<]: aaaand butt (_T_) ,___, [O.o] /)__) -"--"-
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