Starting Dark Angels

[VenoMinoN]

I have finally come to the point where I am getting sick of playing/losing Tau. Although I plan to continue playing the little space dwarves in their battle suits, I wanted to put together a new army and I had some junk marines sitting around.

I put together this list yesterday, but I know very little about the tactics of the Dark Angels. I figured this would be a very mobile army that can cover and assault a large amount of the board without taking very many irrelevant figures (IE-Rhino)

I'm looking for general feedback here, but specific things would be great too. Never having played a marine before I don't know if I'm messing up basic things like overloading a unit or undervaluing a weapon so please help me, or just come in some day and tell me how bad I am at making lists.

DARK ANGELS

TACTICAL SQUAD (to be split into 2 combat squads, PLZ & ML on back obj. Vet +4 in Razorback)
90 4 man squad and Veteran
+75 + 5 marines
+15 Plasma Gun
+10 Missile Launcher
total - 190
---Inside
TRANSPORT RAZORBACK
50 Razorback Transport
+5 Pintle mounted Storm Bolter
+30 Twin Linked Lascannon
total - 85

TACTICAL SQUAD
90 4 man squad and veteran
+15 Power weapon
+5 Meltabombs
total - 110
---Inside
TRANSPORT RAZORBACK
50 Razorback Transport
+5 Pintle Mounted Storm Bolter
+30 Twin Linked Lascannons
Total - 85

SAMMAEL, MASTER OF THE RAVENWING
205 Sammael
total - 205
---joining
RAVENWING ATTACK SQUADRON
120 Ravenwing Attack Squadron
+100 +3 additional bikes
+15 Sergeant power weapon
+25 Ravenwing Standard Bearer
Total - 260

INTERROGATOR-CHAPLAIN
120 Interrogator-Chaplain
+25 Terminator Armour
+5 Combi-Flamer
total - 150
---joining
DEATHWING TERMINATORS
215 Deathwing Terminators
+0 2 Lightning Claws
+0 1 Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield
+20 Cyclone Missile Launcher (on lightning claw)
total - 235
---Inside
LAND RAIDER CRUSADER
250 Land raider deathwing transport
total - 250


LIBRARIAN
120 Librarian
+10 Combi-melta
total - 130
---Joining
105 Command Squad
+15 Sacred Standard Bearer
+25 1 Power fist
total - 145

190+85+110+85+205+235+260+250+150+130+145=1845

[Timbo]

Unless you're particularly attached to the idea of Dark Angels, I'd recommend starting another chapter (since you just have a bunch of marines sitting around). Dark Angels have fewer choices, lesser equipment, and cost more points.

That being said, I'm guilty of having a Dark Angels army because I like the look of dark green armor and robes ;D

Looking at your list, you've got an illegal number of HQ choices. So I'd drop Sammael (I don't like using him unless I'm fielding a lot of Ravenwing units) in favor of something with some more assault punch. As it is, you've really only got one scary unit (the Terminators). So they'll take a load of fire. But take my recommendations with a grain of salt, as my record with DA is pretty abysmal.

[VenoMinoN]

Thanks for the advice

I'd like to stay Dark Angels 'cuz I like the fluff that surrounds them and I like the paint style of the army. The hardest part of the hobby is getting down to the detailed painting of the models, so I try to select stuff that I will WANT to paint 'cuz it looks good. Also they probably will get a new codex within 2 years.

Sammael is with his Sacred Banner to give the Bikers +1 attack, and I would use them to saw down dudes. The unit gets 24 attacks on the charge, and 9 with power weapons from Sammael and the Vet. Plus they are mobile enough to avoid damage round one and then engage round two, not dissimilar to a thunder wolf Cavalry.
Sadly this means either dropping the Interrogator-chaplain (and reducing the power of the Termies) or the Librarian (thus losing all psychic powers)

If I drop Sammael, what do I replace him with? I obviously need something that can go into melee, but should it just be more Terminators or something else like a Vet squad or Assault?


EDIT - just realized I forgot to give the Ravenwing said banner that I mentioned....modified the 1st post - took out the 2nd power fist from the command squad for the banner until I figure if I should run Sammael

[fishboy]

Well the first tactic of most DA players I know is to look at the SM codex and cry... ;D

I applaud you for going with an army that is tough to win with yet has a great back story like the SW.

[Smitty]

I'll be in this weekend some time if you want to talk about some options for you. I crack open the codex and do some research..

[jpiacelli]

From what I know try to do the ravenwing or death wing go for one of those its plays lil better than the normal standard book the book is low quality cept for a few things in the book that's my advice if you wannt do space marines try normal marines or and use the special characters

[jpiacelli]

From what I know try to do the ravenwing or death wing go for one of those its plays lil better than the normal standard book the book is low quality cept for a few things in the book that's my advice if you wannt do space marines try normal marines or and use the special characters

[VenoMinoN]

Dec 15, 2010 20:49:38 GMT -5 fishboy said:

Well the first tactic of most DA players I know is to look at the SM codex and cry... ;D

I applaud you for going with an army that is tough to win with yet has a great back story like the SW.

Hey, I've won games with Tau, and Angels can fite, so this should be easy ;D