Floating Flamers

[hyv3mynd]

During a game at the GT, I was informed that units firing a floating flamer (can place template 12" out) will automatically miss if their primary target is further than 12", even if the end of the template can reach. This call was reinforced by the judge that was called over.

Can anyone give me a codex page, BRB page, or FAQ reference for this?

[nutter]

That make no sense since those flamers dont have primary target, if you read the in the guard book, it has you pick a point with in 12" and drop the template, us if that was the cast the new eldar forge word d-cannon tank would be hitting itself... im semi intrested where this ruleing came from....

[sinistermind]

thats rediculous! sounds like something someone would make up to prevent a key turning point in a game, and the judge for some reason agreed i know for a fact hellhounds have no target as stated by nutter and i assume your referencing a dreadknight, which is the same case

[hyv3mynd]

I agree. I've been stewing over it since the GT and even forced Paul to lose a shot at me at the invitational because of the GT ruling. Nate was the one who brought it up and Hobin judged in his favor, but the dudes on Dakka also think it was a bogus call.

[Goldeagle]

Hey Aaron,

I searched high and low and there is no reference to such a rule. I just think Hobin made a bad call. Chris and Jay both agreed after I explained it to them too; the heavy incinerator works just like we thought it did.

[hyv3mynd]

Paul I apologize for forcing the bad call on you too. I guess I should challenge things more often. Sparks pulled an equally interesting call on me in Tennessee that I didn't look up for a month after I got back

[Goldeagle]

Not a problem - thanks. It was still a fun close game - drat that 7th turn! We'll have to get a rematch in sometime after the painting league. I think we are now officially at the rubber match stage. Congrats on the little one btw! Haven't seen you lately and had been waiting to tell you in person.

[MajorSoB]

Aaron, you are correct the call was bogus on two counts.

1) The flamer templet is not a guess weapon. No where in the rule set does it ever state that you have to pick a point then measure to determine if you are in range. You are free to position the flamer templet to get the maximum amount of casualties in the primary targeted squad. The only stipulation is that you many not take the shot if doing so causes you to shoot thru you own unit.

2) Flamers never miss, they always hit. You only have to roll for woulds, HITS are automatic.

[pogysnacks]

Yea theres no targetting involved, you point it and whatever it touches gets hit, that ruling on the template was way off

[fishboy]

Isnt there a stipulation that the small end of the flamer has to be closest to the shooter?

[professor]

Edit: Whoops, misread this one. The range of the weapon is template + 12" so I would imagine in the check range step, so long as the template is over at least one model, it is in range.