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Post by MajorSoB on Sept 24, 2012 1:18:52 GMT -5
Then make it for Travis and shut the hell up for crap sake!!!!
You act like you are the only person ever to work a job and have a child. Look around princess, many of us do and we find time to get out once in a while. But if taking home some pieces and refurbishing in your Sandusky-style mancave is what you like then please by all means do what you have to do, just don't freaking whine about it here if something gets smudged or some glue comes loose.
And yes, you little whiny backbiting biatch I do have integrity and honor. I look out for others as well as myself. I have helped out with this hobby locally more over the past few years that you ever will and have expected nothing from it. I have also helped out people that I have met while playing this stupid game in ways that have nothing to do with the game. I could care less what you have to say about this or any other matter. You do what you want and I will continue to do what I like. If this upsets you too freaking bad. That has never been my intent but at this point I would say its just an added bonus. This is a great hobby and the local 40K players are a great community. I had a GREAT time today hanging out with 10, yes 10, of my "imaginary" friends playing 40K. This is a great hobby but the thing that destroy it is when you get some self serving jerk or a bunch of them that manipulate things for their own purposes. I like when new players take this hobby up. Last week I talked with a guy and his girlfriend who plan on coming back when the new Chaos is released. I like that new guys like whiplash3 have been poking around the boards here trying to figure out a good place to start. What I don't like are the idiots here who constantly troll the internet looking for the best and fastest way to break the game, as well as the ones who cannot wait to post results about what won some tournament elsewhere with a list no one likes to play. Hey if you want to be someone who is lock step in line with everything that the big giant tournament circuit has to promote then by all means go play in their events and leave the local players the hell alone. In case you missed it, 5th edition collapsed due to everything locally mirroring the tournament circuit. All you are is a wannabe, secretly wishing for the days you can throw off your self imposed chains and run with the big boys on the great 40K tournament scene. Personally I don't want any part of it. I want to play locally and have fun with my "imaginary" friends.
Anything else you want me to add or do you think this covers it?
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Post by MajorSoB on Sept 24, 2012 1:21:03 GMT -5
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Post by Horst on Sept 24, 2012 1:48:00 GMT -5
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Post by rotnak1271 on Sept 24, 2012 6:57:03 GMT -5
Wow, Ron is the voice of reason in an internet cock fight. I guess 6th ed really is bringing change to the game.
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Post by fishboy on Sept 24, 2012 9:43:43 GMT -5
Dang it...I knew I should have left my seat belt on heheh.
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Post by grubnards on Sept 24, 2012 10:29:46 GMT -5
Gee... All I wanted was 1 simple game to play to break up the monotony of the last few weeks of painting, going to the kids school events, work, etc... and the thread once again spirals into the toilet. First, thanks for the game yesterday. I had a great time and enjoyed the day very much. If alex reads this thread, it was shaun who watched the porn on your pc. Dont let them tell you they were "trying" to watch football. Secondly, the terrain that everyone brings to the local events is nice and fully functional. If you want to bring more to add variety, feel free to. I usually bring 1 to 2 tables worth with me in case it is needed but most times it is covered. Last, yeah, terrain does get beat to sh!t in just one weekend. I'm always surprised how much of a beating my boards take at the Da Boyz GT each year. I think that Jay should include some nail clippers in the swag bag so that people cut their finger nails before they start digging into the terrain. I expect wear and tear during the games but not everyone gives a sh!t that they are playing on someone else's boards. Luckily, most players at events are considerate of others property. Minor breaks and scratches are always going to happen, i've just learned to carry around a black marker to cover those unforseen dinges and scratches. Can we now move on to trashing each other over on the Chaos thread instead of prolonging this, now dead thread?
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Post by pogysnacks on Sept 24, 2012 19:21:17 GMT -5
these two provide me with an interesting amount of entertainment in my perma drunk states... Still Doug i know and will back up because i grew up playing games that way back before lists had 3 special characters..cough cough..weeze back to trolling on chaos i will start it
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Post by sinistermind on Sept 24, 2012 20:03:30 GMT -5
Still Doug i know and will back up because i grew up playing games that way back before lists had 3 special characters At least its legal... And might i remind you aaron was slighted for stating facts that were off topic Unless of course this is one of those cases where your right as long as you're on a particular side
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Post by pogysnacks on Sept 24, 2012 21:17:18 GMT -5
we can always settle the cockfight with a dance off, or rap battle? Just saying
In particular lemme state im good friends with Doug, he helped me out and taught me how to play when i was a dumb young kid, and him along with Ron, and some other players like Pete and Courtney did take the time to show us how to play, young kids older guys etc.. So he openly flames guys but neither one is innocent...hell if the game went back to how Daboyz used to run their events hed probably never complain (ok maybe not never)..but hes an old timer in terms of 40k hailing from the good ol days when the games were a lot more fun, and people had a lot more fun playing. He gets a lot of crap from people whove known him for years, and understand how he is and his blatent approach, he doesnt jerk you off, and gets straight to the point and has givin a lot to the community over the last god knows how many years, as well as raising his kid in a not so easy predicament. So maybe we can get away from taking sides and just accept people for who they are, hell they may get along one day, who knows, but in the meantime adding to the fire or either side may not be the wisest thing..let them duke it out, granted yes i said id side with Doug, but im not gonna fan the fire between them, lets just leave this between them, eventually it will fizzle out.
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Post by hyv3mynd on Sept 24, 2012 21:32:39 GMT -5
Like I said, sorry Kevin. Can't disappoint Fishboy and Horstie tho! Maybe someday you'll forgive me for flushing your thread Hmm where to start? No one said that, your terrain is apprcieated. Please read the other parts of the post where that was mentioned. Not all of it was negative you just took those parts out and concetrated upon it. Crap was never used either. Here I'll help you find it: Past two tournaments I got screwed playing on a crappy table which absolutely affected the outcome. I can guarantee that the board will have better variety on it than the spammed terrain that tends to show up at our monthly events. Pretty easy to see how people get rowdy about these statements. Tons of better ways to address the issues. Maybe a poll like Poll: Let's NOT Use the Smoke Stack Table Anymore. I bet you would get a majority vote, push an agenda, and please the majority at the same time ;D And yes, you little whiny backbiting biatch I do have integrity and honor. I look out for others as well as myself. Integrity - "Adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness of moral character; honesty."
Honor - "Honesty, fairness, or integrity in one's beliefs and actions, high respect, as for worth, merit, or rank, such respect manifested"Not much integrity and honor in name calling. Unless by integrity you mean adhering to the moral principals of personal attacks against people who have different preferences in the hobby than you. You've definitely been consistent in attacking and insulting people you disagree with over the past 2 years I've been a part of the community. in your Sandusky-style mancave Not much honor or integrity in comparing my house to that of a child molester. Without fail, you'll take a shot at my wife, home, or work every time you rage on me. Why bring my personal life into a discussion about a game/hobby? Do you really want me to start digging for your personal skeletons and blab about them on a public forum? Maybe when you mentioned honor and integrity, you meant only towards the people you know and like? I would think we all treat our friends and acquaintances with honor and integrity. Should we be judged by how we treat our friend or how we treat a stranger? Aaron there really was no reason for you to call out Doug on that error in his list. That was you taking a jab and trolling. Is it trolling to point out the guy saying this... I want to play by all the rules not the ones that only you like, which means if I buy a Fortress of Redemption and want to play it because it is a legal piece as defined by the main rule book who are you to tell me that I cannot? ... didn't bring a legal list and couldn't follow the RAW of his own special rules? I'm not trolling, I'm pointing out the issues with his credibility on a topic he takes an aggressive stance on when debating others. It's very hypocritical. Just like the whole thing where he thought it was OK to bring 9 oblits etc to a comp tournament, but he would take a flamethrower to a necron airforce army if he saw one. Just like it's hypocritical that he pats himself on the back as Mr. Honor and Integrity in the same thread where he calls people names and insults their home. these two provide me with an interesting amount of entertainment in my perma drunk states... Still Doug i know and will back up because i grew up playing games that way back before lists had 3 special characters..cough cough..weeze back to trolling on chaos i will start it Glad to provide entertainment ! You know, for my first two years I didn't use a single special character in a single tournament. That included all the monthly ones, DaBoyz GT 2010, ATC 2011, and DaBoyz GT 2011. It's because comp was drilled into me as a new player and people would judge you because you used a special character. Now, comp is dead and it's the RAW way or the highway. I bought into allies, fortifications, and special characters and I'm enjoying myself more than I ever did in 5th ed. For killing comp, I thank Doug, but again you can't remove list restrictions and then complain about what people use. Anyways, back on topic (not really). You win Doug! You can sit on your moderator throne and dish out insults and personal attacks with impunity. I literally cannot contribute to a thread without you attacking me, so I will stop contributing to the forum. Peace, love, and good luck ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Horst on Sept 24, 2012 22:18:54 GMT -5
oh snap. nuts just got real.
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Post by pogysnacks on Sept 24, 2012 23:06:00 GMT -5
Let's start a riot..jesus this must have taken a lot of time to come up with all of the facts..I guess that makes me a troll for aiding in this thingy measuring contest...but for the record my thingy is still bigger than both of yours (its an italian thing). Doug and Aaron thunderdome style soon please would be awesome..Doug I know you're never going to change you're the grumpy ass grizzled vet of warhams and a living troll love you man. Aaron I don't know you but contrary to your stance, stop acting like the world is against you and you always have to prove a point...Havnt you realized yet that in his eyes you wont win regardless of the facts? Or are you just daft? Seriously this is like a powderpuff football game its a forum, although its quite hilarious, he's making you out to look like an ass too just because you respond? Please tell me im not the only one that notices this...or has the level of perceptiveness just decreased to a matt ward like low? Its like the cafeteria in middle school and the new guys shoes are awesome but he gets flamed for having money... Now Doug I love you man, but keep your trolling up most of us can handle it, but both of you cut the nuts or seriously fight it out, because if I was in either position being the classy soldier I am I would've cracked the others jaw a long time ago..but end this let's get back to what this should be about: THE HOBBY...oh and both of you are inferior gamers anyway because you only play 40k..put on your man pants and play a game that requires more than a nervous down syndrome twitch and some dice..yea warhammer fantasy the big boy game Peace, Love, Sex, Booze, Violence, and Rock and Roll Now bed time because I have to jump out of plane at 8am and do a week long mission Cheers
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Post by MajorSoB on Sept 25, 2012 0:25:49 GMT -5
Nice suggestion Jeremy. Let me go post a video of someone pissing on the Koran or a cartoon of Mohammed to kick this party in the butt and get it off right! ------THE MAIN EVENT------ First off I am not planning on quoting throughout this post. I know what I wrote, I know what I said, go back and read it if you like, but for this particular retort I am choosing not to quote. Now here are my thoughts in order, loosely trying to address the "concerns" brought up. Get ready to be entertained!!!! 1) I think the real issue here is the inability to discern sarcasm. When I write and often when I speak I am sarcastic. Falsely I believed that most people here reading this had a triple digit IQ and could separate the sarcasm from the point being discussed. Clearly I was wrong. 2) So you don't like the word crap? Why do I feel like I am in an English class having an essay graded? I could have used another word but crap seemed appropriate. The meaning behind it was that the board (correctly identified by Aaron...woohoo!) was not an enjoyable nor a fair board for a tournament environment. I didn't go off on some crusade about it but clearly I think we can do better. If you paid attention to what Smitty said he wanted that terrain to be mixed in throughout the tables rather than grouped on one board. That seems like a decent idea. Again I applauded Rob for bringing his terrain and running these past few event, seems that was forgotten! If Aaron you really enjoy this board I can bring back my Crater Only board that was used at the last GT that I attended. No one liked that, even though it was themed ( go check out so pictures of "no man's land" in WW1 ) I could see why some would not like it and why it may favor some armies. We don't need any polls to come to a reasoned conclusion on this. By the way, what is you fascination with polls? 3) Yep, I like you definition of integrity, clearly that applies to me. Yep, honor as well. The one characteristic I forgot is honesty. Here is the definition: Honesty refers to a facet of moral character and denotes positive and virtuous attributes such as integrity, truthfulness and straightforwardness along with the absence of lying, cheating or theft.You see, when I call you out, I am being honest. This is how I see it. While some of it is indeed sarcasm, the message contained within is my unbiased opinion. I have always said what I mean but meant what I have said. I call it like I see it. 4)Insults and attacking. You clearly have no idea who I am. You also clearly have no idea who most of us are. Let's see sunday's topic for discussion....I clearly remember ripping on Horst for bringing his Swiss army green marines that will probably become the traitor legion of the Aurora Chapter in a few short weeks. I always rip on Steve, but I think he knows how I mean it. If I didn't like him I wouldn't talk to him, but instead I was happy that he showed up and hung out. I also took time to break C4 balls in regard to his Guard Army's construction. I busted him hard because he lost to my son, but truth be told he would have won had the game not ended. I also ripped on Ron pretty hard since Special beat him with only two models on the table! The week prior, much of the same occurred, but the highlight that I remember was Shaun busting on my son's gf when the term "shocker" came up! (By the way she did think it was funny, and no my son wasn't offended either!) You dear boy, are the one who glosses your basement as the "mancave". Hell all I can think of when I hear a term like that is you dressed like Buffalo Bob saying "It puts the lotion on!". d**n that is a scary thought, WTF is wrong with me? Yeah I have ripped on you, and the chocolate factory, as well as the Oompah Loompahs, but I do not remember breaking your wife's balls. If I did that is probably the only thing that I would ever apologize for, after all she has to be d**n near a saint to put up with you! 5) Troll. The most overused word on the internet! Anytime anyone in an open forum has anything contrary to say that isn't lock step with the original posters sentiments they are dubbed a troll. Well that my friend is usually when I decided to post. I am not going to post generally just to tell the originator how wonderful they are and how great their idea was. If I have something to add, that's when I post. Call it what you like, whatever, I'm still going to write it! 6) Legal lists. Yes I relied on Battlescribe. When I submitted my list it came up legal. I printed out 5 copies and offered one to each of my opponents. That included my first opponent who did not have the new rules to two of the units he was using when I asked to see them. This is not to say that I did not enjoy my game because I did. He went on to win so obviously my error didn't really have much of a factor. I also had fun talking with him after the day was over. Oh, and if you were hanging out with me the week after when this oversight came to light I did indeed admit it publicly. WTF would you like me to do to atone for this? It wasn't the only error of the day either, apparently my second game was played wrong because I allowed a non troop model to carry the relic in a game I lost, but since I had agreed at the onset it wasn't really a big deal. I enjoyed the game (not the board!) and my opponent. Thanks again Walter! Game three I played Matt and we had fun. I complimented him on his painting (based of German WW2 armor) and his conversions. The game went well but was very lopsided. When Smitty came by to ask for scores I told him not to bother totaling my results since I felt like it was rubbing salt in Matt's wounds. I want to see him back and I didn't feel like gloating over that meaningless game. The only thing that mattered was that we both had fun. When will it start to occur to you that this is just a freaking game? 7) Terry brought up the flamethrower in regards to the Necron Airforce, I just agreed! 8) 9 Obliterators were legal, just like the rest of my army was that day, and you were outplayed so get over it! 9) Special characters, whatever! So do you get a badge to sew on your Girl Scout sash since you resisted playing special characters so long? Now that you are playing three does that mean you have to turn in your purity ring? 10) Comp. You have no clue what that term meant. You have always thought comp meant variety. In a perfect system comp isn't needed but 40K is far from perfect. Comp should be used as a handicapping system to level the differences between the top tier armies and the weaker ones. This is a circular discussion since there really will never be one true answer or one perfect application. Right now I am enjoying the no comp system, and if you have paid any attention, I have not brought out the 9 Oblits that seem to cause sand to collect in your vag for quite some time! Again get over it and enjoy the game for what it is. 11) Moderator status. It's a joke for frak sake! It was meant to piss you off, and guess, what it worked!!!! I don't believe in censorship at all. I think we all should be able to post whatever we want, however we want. If you look at that document that our forefathers crafted over 200 years ago, they sought to guarantee free speech and freedom of the press. I have and always will support these rights so don't expect me to delete anything anytime soon, from you or anyone. OK, did I miss anything? Are we done with this or do you want to keep this going? You know we started out having a somewhat civil exchange on the new Chaos models and rules ( still psyched!! ) but you just couldn't leave it alone could you. It's like watching a three you old that you tell not to touch the hot stove and then they do it anyways. The difference is that sooner of later that three year old learns... "Stupid is as stupid does." - Forrest Gump
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Post by professor on Sept 25, 2012 8:44:24 GMT -5
6) Legal lists. Yes I relied on Battlescribe. When I submitted my list it came up legal. I printed out 5 copies and offered one to each of my opponents. That included my first opponent who did not have the new rules to two of the units he was using when I asked to see them. This one is on me - the Flamer rules are unchanged but the Screamers had S5 AP2 and Slashing Attacks now. I had a pirated version of the rules - I have them all now it took me a while to track down a copy of the White Dwarf (which ironically arrived at home in Canastota on Saturday Morning from E-Bay). That said, sarcasm is generally hard to interpret through the written word - it seems even more so on forums. There really ought to be standard for text based sarcasm that is not a smiley face.
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