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Post by popkhorne on May 5, 2006 18:14:31 GMT -5
ok, most people play with marine armies so there for i would have to agree that the T4 thing, but lets not forget about living ammunition wich allows him to re-roll for wounding.
If by average hes rolling 24 shots, he'll hit with 12.
up against T4, he wounds on 5's he'll wound with 4.
He re-rolls with 8, wounds with another 2 - 3 equalling 6 wounds.
so... if they are T 4 he still averages half his hits! And god forbid he comes across an army with T3!
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Post by jay on May 5, 2006 20:01:18 GMT -5
New List
Tyranids Roster
unit 201 Pts
1 Hive Tyrant
Scything Talons Synapse Creature; The Horror; Warp Blast
2 Tyrant Guard
unit 219 Pts
1 Hive Tyrant
Acid Maw; Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Implant Attack; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Winged; Scything Talons (x2); Synapse Creature; The Horror; Warp Field
unit 203 Pts
4 Warriors
Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Twin-linked Devourer; Synapse Creature
1 Warriors
Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x1); Barbed Strangler; Synapse Creature
unit 240 Pts
6 Ravener
Rending Claws; Scything Talons (x1)
unit 240 Pts
6 Ravener
Rending Claws; Scything Talons (x1)
unit 42 Pts
3 Ripper Swarm @ 42 Pts
Leaping
unit 148 Pts
1 Carnifex @ 148 Pts
Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Barbed Strangler; Venom Cannon
unit 148 Pts
1 Carnifex @ 148 Pts
Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Barbed Strangler; Venom Cannon
unit 113 Pts
1 Carnifex
Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Twin-linked Devourer (x2)
unit 113 Pts
1 Carnifex
Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Twin-linked Devourer (x2)
unit 96 Pts
6 Genestealers
Rending Claws
unit 80 Pts
1 Lictor @ 80 Pts
Feeder Tendrils; Flesh Hooks; Rending Claws; Scything Talons
Total Roster Cost: 1843
He is the new list. I think it will play better.
Tell me what you think.
One comment about Raveners. Ravener Might be the best unit in Nid Book. When they hits something it is nasty. A squad of six. It has 30 attacks on the charge. On average they should roll 6 rending attacks. This is one of units that it does not matter what you charge. You are going to kill it.
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Post by dragons3 on May 5, 2006 22:07:47 GMT -5
JAY, ALWAYS TAKE FLESH HOOKS FOR THE BIG GUYS, ONLY 1 point PER CARNEFEX AND 4 point PER HIVE TYRANT. THE BIG HEAVIES ALMOST ALWAYS ATTACK INTO COVER,WHICH IS BETTER (THAT MAKES IT SIMO.) INSTEAD OF INITIATIVE 1 or 2 OUT OF COVER, YOU'RE GOING LAST. PLUS IMPASSIBLE TERRAIN & DANGEROUS TERRAIN BECOME DIFFICULT TERRAIN, (YOU CAN ENTER & HIDE WITHOUT BEING PURSUED). SO:3 CARNEFEXES WITH FLESH HOOKS,PLUS THE WINGED HIVE TYRANT IS 1850 points EVEN. FIND 6 MORE POINTS FOR THE HIVE TYRANT & 2 GUARDS, (PEOPLE WILL MAKE YOU ATTACK THEM IN COVER WITH THIS UNIT). CIAO!  |
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Post by mikea on May 6, 2006 21:05:22 GMT -5
I couldn't disagree more. The ONLY time that it makes a difference if you are 'last' vs. being 'simul' is if your opponent actually kills off the Tyranid that turn. If that is going to happen, then you shouldn't charge anyway. Flesh Hooks are a waste of points on big bugs.
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Post by popkhorne on May 7, 2006 10:45:59 GMT -5
To say that they are a waste of points is a little over the top! they are only 1 point for carnifex's and for there initiative being low, he being to strike simultaneously actually makes it better for him. Also it treats all impassible terrain as difficult. I thinks thats worth 1 point!
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Post by mikea on May 7, 2006 11:54:32 GMT -5
To say that they are a waste of points is a little over the top! they are only 1 point for carnifex's and for there initiative being low, he being to strike simultaneously actually makes it better for him. Also it treats all impassible terrain as difficult. I thinks thats worth 1 point! No, it does NOT make it any better, unless the Carnifex is actually killed, which is extremely unlikely (and you wouldn't charge if you thought that, anyway). In *both* cases (with or without), the Carnifex and his opponent both get in the same amount of hits. |
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