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[Iron Warrior]

Lord, beserker glaive, MOK (Mark of Khorne), Wings, Mutation, Armor, Collar of Khorne, Personal Icon, Infiltrate

8 Beserkers, 2 Plasma pistols,Chain weapons Champion, Power fist
8 Beserkers, 2 Plasma pistols,Chain Weapons Champion, Power fist
8 Beserkers, 2 Plasma pistols,Chain Weapons Champion, Power fist, Rhino Sm+Ar
16 Beserkers, Chain Weapons, Champion, Power fist
8 Bloodletters
8 Flesh Hounds
5 Beserker Bikers, chain weapons, campion, power fist, Furious charge
Predetor with twin linked las-cannon turrent (no sponsons)

EDIT: its 1999 pts

[MallSecurity]

IIRC models with the MoK can't get infiltrate. Other than that it looks fine. I might recommend the Blood Thirster over the Lord or the FleshHounds though.

[skyth]

It's exploiting a loophole to give a Khorne prince infiltrate, though technically legal. I'd kill any sports score and comp score for doing that though.

What isn't legal is giving the lord Glaive and Wings. Glaive can't be combined with any other movement mode. (I'd guess you have a first printing Chaos Codex like I do...)

The list itself is seriously lacking in Anti-Tank. Tri-Las preds are you friend. I wouldn't bother with the Flesh hounds and the 16 man squad should be an 8 (Or two 8s but you need the points elsewhere for Preds)

Also, all Rhinos or no Rhinos is probably a pretty good idea. Khorne can still do a Rhino rush. Deploy behind the Rhinos with the Rhinos parked sideways. Move the Rhinos forward 12" (Still sideways) and pop smoke. The next turn, disembark (2.9") move and assault. Possibly rage as well. (And hope you don't rage the first turn )

[Brinan The Barbarian]

yea, it lacks tank hunting, because all those plasma pistols, the fists, and the las cannon all kill only guys. no, it can take tanks, ill agree if armored company comes around, you might have problems, but its fine for tanks. nice list, but i agree with matt, check the infiltrate rules to see if he can take it.

[Wolf Lord Snorville]

I'd give at least 1 of the champions the the axe of khorne

[colonelellios]

Don't predators have to take sponsons?

Otherwise I think it's beardy and despise it.

[MajorSoB]

I tend to disagree on the lack of tank hunting. I have seen Khorne armies do well on the charge with the AC's powerfist against vehicles.

How about Khorne Termies? I know they are expensive but they also can rage. I dunno, it's a thought!

[MajorSoB]

colonelellios said:

Don't predators have to take sponsons?

Otherwise I think it's beardy and despise it.

No, sponsons are an upgrade, kinda like smoke and extra armor on a rhino ( well, at least until GW rewrites all that crap...) Upgrades are just that, upgrades, and optional. Are you saying that a vindicator is beardy without POTMS? How about a falcon without spirit stones or those d**ned vectored engines, now there is an idea!

Hey, who the hell in this Captain Tony's or Coronel Ellis' Pizza guy and what the hell is he doing posting here? How about showing up sunday for a steel cage, chainmail bikini match with Ron. I'll sell tickets!

[Iron Warrior]

Mall Security, You Are right, No infitrate with MoK.

Skyth: its not an exploite, its blatenly wrong. And it was done in errror not on purpose. Relax. Personally, your threat of a low sports and comp score dont scare me. BTW now we see what type of "scorer" You would screw someone on sports for having bad comp. Although personally I think its dispicable your entitled to your opinion. I do have a first printing, I bought the book long ago in boxed army release. If it says something diffrent in a newer printing I was unaware. No where in the "old" printing does it say you cannot have the wings and glaive, only that if you have wings you cannot rage.

16 man squad is there to have a maxed squad choice for Khorne, no one does it. Its a fine choice. Breaking it into 2 8's would mean another champion with another first (more points infact)

Fists/plasma pistols/mobile pred yeah maybe light for shooty marines types but fine for khorne.

Reasoning behind the pred with no sponsons was so that it could move and take angle shots rather than sitting in the open and try to slug it out with other pred/las/dev squads.

All Rhinos/No Rhinos = Boring. One rhino, bikes and Lord are fast enough to handle anything I need to and capture objectives. As well as the beserkers who can rage.

Wolflord: Yes I was thinking the same thing...I will tweak it.

Ellios: You are retarded..

SoB: You are either getting Bikers or Termies. Both are hella expensive. I wanted to try bike. But I would like a 8 man termie squad with lighting claws. hehehe!! That would rock.

[MajorSoB]

What, no reply to the steel cage, chainmail bikini throwdown?

[Dr. Mud]

What about a dreadnought with LAS? And if points allow the khorne vehilce upgrade, this will keep in the CC theme of the army. But if the speed of the pred is what your after then I understand.

[Iron Warrior]

Mud, Yeah I thought about that too. It come out only 5 points more expensive for less armor though. Still only moving 6 a turn and firing a twin linked las. Its deffinatly an option.

SoB. No comment

[skyth]

ironwarrior said:

Skyth: its not an exploite, its blatenly wrong. And it was done in errror not on purpose. Relax. Personally, your threat of a low sports and comp score dont scare me. BTW now we see what type of "scorer" You would screw someone on sports for having bad comp. Although personally I think its dispicable your entitled to your opinion.

If someone uses an exploit in list building, I do consider that bad sportsmanship and bad comp(About the only thing I'd tag comp for). If the list is powerful, I have absolutely no problem with it. If they use an exploit in the game (For Instance, claiming that Mystics don't allow shots at podders) then I would hit sports, but not comp.

I do have a first printing, I bought the book long ago in boxed army release. If it says something diffrent in a newer printing I was unaware. No where in the "old" printing does it say you cannot have the wings and glaive, only that if you have wings you cannot rage.

Yeah, that was clarified in the newer printings (Stupid Stealth Reprints...They should have FAQ'd it...) and the Wargear book. You can't take Glaive and any other movement modes.

16 man squad is there to have a maxed squad choice for Khorne, no one does it. Its a fine choice. Breaking it into 2 8's would mean another champion with another first (more points infact)

Fists/plasma pistols/mobile pred yeah maybe light for shooty marines types but fine for khorne.

Reasoning behind the pred with no sponsons was so that it could move and take angle shots rather than sitting in the open and try to slug it out with other pred/las/dev squads.

All Rhinos/No Rhinos = Boring. One rhino, bikes and Lord are fast enough to handle anything I need to and capture objectives. As well as the beserkers who can rage..

I was just looking at it from an effectiveness point of view and how I prefer to play (I'd mech Khorne personally). If you enjoy playing with the list, more power to you Usually when I hear someone asking to have someone comment on thier list, I assume unless otherwise noted that it's for effectiveness.

I hate playing with lists I don't enjoy because they're more 'effective' another way that radically changes the 'feel' of the army. To me an army with an infantry type split between mech and non-mech just doesn't feel right I guess.

And I'm rambling, so you'll have to excuse me if I'm not making complete sense.

[Norton]

OK, first...

It's a khorne army so I'd drop the pred entirely and switch it to a laz armed dreadie. Just cuz it's more "punchy" then a generic pred. Of course i'll give you partial credit for not taking sponsons.

Next, i like the idea of dropping the prince entirely and having the army led by a bloodthirster only. No Lt. no lord, just big pappa with his axe. Once you nix the fruity whip, only homo-ish Slaneshi characters have whips...

Other then that, sure you have very little anti tank (to Brain, anti-tank either has to be fast, d**n fast, or it has to have range or your "anti-tank" will have very hard times actually hurting tanks, especially fast ones like eldar, or craptastic ones like monoliths)

You trade anti-tank for theme though, kudos there. Ditto on the khornedogs, very fluffy, and even against marines, fast and St 5 goes a long ways... not to mention not getting dinged like you would for taking yet more power weapon armed demons...

blah blah blah loophole blah blah blah didnt know blah blah blah.