Post by johnboo on Oct 16, 2006 14:50:17 GMT -5
DaBoys Fantasy Battle report - or, Caledor brings it!
Better write this while its still fresh. We finally had our inaugural 2-day DaBoys GT tournament weekend here in Rochester, NY, a somewhat standard US GT (2250 pts, 5 scenario games) though with a rather heavy comp checklist. See www.boldo.com/miniatures/daboyzgt.html for comp specifics, but in general, no one was expected to have perfect comp as it would create a very weak army. More of a checks and balances comp to debunk min-maxing army designs. We used 7th Ed rules, rather “unique” scenarios, and each table had a special feature using the rules in the new 7th ed book. I think we ended up with 16 players on the fantasy side, the Buffalo winter storm caused a few no-shows.
I brought my Caledor High Elves because
A: My best painted & converted army
B: People don’t mind facing them, rather uncommon in a tournament setting.
C: I’m pretty good with ‘em
No Dragon this time, but still very much a “bring the fight to them” design.
Prince- horse, barding, dragon armor, halberd, lion guard, Vambraces of defence
BSB- barded horse, dragon armor
Commander- eagle, lance, dragon armor, shield, Reaver bow
Mage- channeler, level 1
28 first spearelves - FC, Lion standard (prince here for immovable anvil)
29 spearelves - FC (mage)
10 silverhelms - FC
10 Dragon Princes, FC, Warbanner, champ had -3 Amulet of purifying flame (BSB here)
2 chariots
2 eagles
2250pts or so. (from memory)
The above clocked in at a 33 for comp out of 50. I thought it would have been low, but it was about middle of the road. There are reasons for some of the sizes/command choices/other odd design choices – check out the comp list before the inevitable “why did you not take 2 x 5 silverhelms?” questions.
Day 1:
Game one – Dan with Wood Elves
Yay. Here we go. I just do not enjoy facing wood elves. I learn this was Brian’s first WHFB tournament game, and his 6th WHFB game, period. Brian knew his stuff pretty well, though.
From memory:
Wild Rider lord on stag, netlings
Wild riders
L2 mage
Block of winter guard
Dryads
Wardancers
Glade guard
Glade riders
Scouts
Waywatchers
Dan was just starting out, so played with that he had, all unpainted – allowed, and I really didn’t mind. We need some new players locally, which Brian was. Turn 1 brings a huge luck issue for me. I get first turn and declair a charge with my DP w/BSB at his waywatchers deployed 12” away. Stand & shoot, 2 killing blow, one more wound, I fail the save, and roll an 11 for panic, run 9 off the board You gotta be sh*tting me. First game, first turn I’m playing 500pts down, without my hammer unit. We had to play slower than normal and got in 5 turns and in the end I managed to fight my way back and collect enough points for a draw. Other highlights, eagles took care of wild riders with stag-lord with diverting who never saw combat. Scenario never came into play (attack the camp). Dan played well beyond his experience, and look forward to playing him again sometime.
Record 0-0-1
Game two – Greg - Ogre Kingdoms
From memory:
Tyrant, seigebreaker
BSB
Butcher, bangstick
8 Ironguts FC (tyrant & bsb here!!!!!)
2 x 3 leadbelchers
2 x 4 bulls FC extra hw
2 x 4 bulls FC ironfists
Hmmm. Not what I would call tuned. Greg was a nice guy and still kept up a cheery disposition even when things went terribly wrong. In a nutshell - with his Ironguts blocked by an impassible historic monument in the center of the table, my opponents second turn charged his Tyrant out of the big unit and a unit of extra HW bulls into the Stubborn spear unit, pretty much wiffed, and I killed 2 bulls back, winning the combat though he holds. My turn, chariot into the flank of the bulls, tyrant does not roll snake eyes on 2 chances and gets run down. DPs blew past one flank and in ensuing turns flank charged the surrounded ‘Guts, and its pretty much game over. Scenario was a version of gain ground, having to control more table quarters than your opponent – the only way to win – VP made no difference. Nice guy, I really felt bad as he really had no answer to my 2 blocks of cavalry.
Record 1-0-1
Game three – Morbid with Skaven
Nice metal guy, goes by the name “Morbid”. He’s local, but plays his games over at the “other store”. He has a clan pestilens theme going with some really classic skaven models. Fairly sure he never updated his army from 5th ed.
From memory:
Grey Seer on screaming bell
BSB with cause fear banner
Big block of clanrats (bell here)
1 ratling, 1 warpfire
Big block of stormvermin
Hero in stormvermin
Unit of 2 ratswarm bases
3 rat ogres
big block of slaves
plague monks
10 plague censer bearers
Scenario was ambush, if you managed to deploy all your units before your opponent, you got a normal move for a non-flying unit for each unit he still had to deploy. Cool in theory, but our units balanced out and pretty much meant nothing to us. Early on, his vermin was ripping my spear units to shreds, DPs took a hit with plague after running through the Rat ogres on the left. The silverhelms tasked with dealing with the plague monks on the right won combat, but the dirty rats held – bad thing as the PCBs then flanked them on the ensuing turn. My mage got off an unlikely Vauls unmaking with IF upon the Seer’s unit, with me turning off the fear banner. I had to pretty much bring in the mages spear unit along with a chariot with only 1 wound left into the Seer/Bell/BSB/clanrat unit. The other spear unit was finishing off a rat swarm. Some above average rolling had the bell trying to hold on a 2, broke and was run down by the spears! No subtle elf tricks, just plain ol’ beatdown. Chariot crashes into the WFT, ratling panics, stormvermin panic, slaves panic. Stee-rike! Ensuing turns stormvermin off the table, slaves charged by DPs, silverhelms beaten again, too small to rally. A rather enjoyable game with a nice guy. Morbid and I are 1-1 vs each other now.
Record 2-0-1
End of day one, I’m looking pretty good!
Better write this while its still fresh. We finally had our inaugural 2-day DaBoys GT tournament weekend here in Rochester, NY, a somewhat standard US GT (2250 pts, 5 scenario games) though with a rather heavy comp checklist. See www.boldo.com/miniatures/daboyzgt.html for comp specifics, but in general, no one was expected to have perfect comp as it would create a very weak army. More of a checks and balances comp to debunk min-maxing army designs. We used 7th Ed rules, rather “unique” scenarios, and each table had a special feature using the rules in the new 7th ed book. I think we ended up with 16 players on the fantasy side, the Buffalo winter storm caused a few no-shows.
I brought my Caledor High Elves because
A: My best painted & converted army
B: People don’t mind facing them, rather uncommon in a tournament setting.
C: I’m pretty good with ‘em
No Dragon this time, but still very much a “bring the fight to them” design.
Prince- horse, barding, dragon armor, halberd, lion guard, Vambraces of defence
BSB- barded horse, dragon armor
Commander- eagle, lance, dragon armor, shield, Reaver bow
Mage- channeler, level 1
28 first spearelves - FC, Lion standard (prince here for immovable anvil)
29 spearelves - FC (mage)
10 silverhelms - FC
10 Dragon Princes, FC, Warbanner, champ had -3 Amulet of purifying flame (BSB here)
2 chariots
2 eagles
2250pts or so. (from memory)
The above clocked in at a 33 for comp out of 50. I thought it would have been low, but it was about middle of the road. There are reasons for some of the sizes/command choices/other odd design choices – check out the comp list before the inevitable “why did you not take 2 x 5 silverhelms?” questions.
Day 1:
Game one – Dan with Wood Elves
Yay. Here we go. I just do not enjoy facing wood elves. I learn this was Brian’s first WHFB tournament game, and his 6th WHFB game, period. Brian knew his stuff pretty well, though.
From memory:
Wild Rider lord on stag, netlings
Wild riders
L2 mage
Block of winter guard
Dryads
Wardancers
Glade guard
Glade riders
Scouts
Waywatchers
Dan was just starting out, so played with that he had, all unpainted – allowed, and I really didn’t mind. We need some new players locally, which Brian was. Turn 1 brings a huge luck issue for me. I get first turn and declair a charge with my DP w/BSB at his waywatchers deployed 12” away. Stand & shoot, 2 killing blow, one more wound, I fail the save, and roll an 11 for panic, run 9 off the board You gotta be sh*tting me. First game, first turn I’m playing 500pts down, without my hammer unit. We had to play slower than normal and got in 5 turns and in the end I managed to fight my way back and collect enough points for a draw. Other highlights, eagles took care of wild riders with stag-lord with diverting who never saw combat. Scenario never came into play (attack the camp). Dan played well beyond his experience, and look forward to playing him again sometime.
Record 0-0-1
Game two – Greg - Ogre Kingdoms
From memory:
Tyrant, seigebreaker
BSB
Butcher, bangstick
8 Ironguts FC (tyrant & bsb here!!!!!)
2 x 3 leadbelchers
2 x 4 bulls FC extra hw
2 x 4 bulls FC ironfists
Hmmm. Not what I would call tuned. Greg was a nice guy and still kept up a cheery disposition even when things went terribly wrong. In a nutshell - with his Ironguts blocked by an impassible historic monument in the center of the table, my opponents second turn charged his Tyrant out of the big unit and a unit of extra HW bulls into the Stubborn spear unit, pretty much wiffed, and I killed 2 bulls back, winning the combat though he holds. My turn, chariot into the flank of the bulls, tyrant does not roll snake eyes on 2 chances and gets run down. DPs blew past one flank and in ensuing turns flank charged the surrounded ‘Guts, and its pretty much game over. Scenario was a version of gain ground, having to control more table quarters than your opponent – the only way to win – VP made no difference. Nice guy, I really felt bad as he really had no answer to my 2 blocks of cavalry.
Record 1-0-1
Game three – Morbid with Skaven
Nice metal guy, goes by the name “Morbid”. He’s local, but plays his games over at the “other store”. He has a clan pestilens theme going with some really classic skaven models. Fairly sure he never updated his army from 5th ed.
From memory:
Grey Seer on screaming bell
BSB with cause fear banner
Big block of clanrats (bell here)
1 ratling, 1 warpfire
Big block of stormvermin
Hero in stormvermin
Unit of 2 ratswarm bases
3 rat ogres
big block of slaves
plague monks
10 plague censer bearers
Scenario was ambush, if you managed to deploy all your units before your opponent, you got a normal move for a non-flying unit for each unit he still had to deploy. Cool in theory, but our units balanced out and pretty much meant nothing to us. Early on, his vermin was ripping my spear units to shreds, DPs took a hit with plague after running through the Rat ogres on the left. The silverhelms tasked with dealing with the plague monks on the right won combat, but the dirty rats held – bad thing as the PCBs then flanked them on the ensuing turn. My mage got off an unlikely Vauls unmaking with IF upon the Seer’s unit, with me turning off the fear banner. I had to pretty much bring in the mages spear unit along with a chariot with only 1 wound left into the Seer/Bell/BSB/clanrat unit. The other spear unit was finishing off a rat swarm. Some above average rolling had the bell trying to hold on a 2, broke and was run down by the spears! No subtle elf tricks, just plain ol’ beatdown. Chariot crashes into the WFT, ratling panics, stormvermin panic, slaves panic. Stee-rike! Ensuing turns stormvermin off the table, slaves charged by DPs, silverhelms beaten again, too small to rally. A rather enjoyable game with a nice guy. Morbid and I are 1-1 vs each other now.
Record 2-0-1
End of day one, I’m looking pretty good!