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Post by boldo on Jul 5, 2007 12:35:37 GMT -5
Here are some more nemesis persona to increase the varietyof some armies.
Necrarch Vampire Thrall Vampire Thrall Nehekara's Noble Blood, Nightmare barding. 137pts Generates an extra power die which only he can use.
Lahmia Vampire Lord Lvl 3 wizard, seduction, quickblood, Black periapt. 435pts counts as battle standard bearer but has range of only 6" and does not add +1 to combat resolution.
Strigoi Vampire Count Massive monstrosity, bat form 300pts gets a ghast in each unit of ghouls for free.
Von Carstein Vampire Count Lvel 2 winged Nightmare crown of the d**ned black axe of krell 500pts Fell bats count as core.
Khorne Exaulted Chapion mark of Khorne, juggernaut, spell eater shield, flail 267pts spawns get mark of khorne for free if they do not have another mark.
Slaanesh Sorcerer lvl 2 mark of slanesh, pendant of slanesh, warrior familiar 190pts 1 unit of deamons count as core.
Nurgle aspiring champion mark of nurgle, Death head flith mace chaos steed, shield 213pts One unit of mauraders can get the mark of nurgle for 25pts.
Undivided Daemon Prince Master of mortals, living idol, soul hunger chaos disruption lvl 1 wizard. may take units of furies as core.
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Post by MajorSoB on Jul 5, 2007 14:32:19 GMT -5
Let me check out the new Tomb Kings character.....
Wait a minute, there isn't one? Now how did that happen?
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Post by boldo on Jul 5, 2007 16:05:33 GMT -5
Another new Character
Savage Orc Great Shamman on Wyvern with waagh paint, Skull wand of Kaloth, Warboss Imbad's Iron Gnashas 475 pts He may upgrade one troll to a champion for 25pts. The troll champion is the same as a troll except he is Ld6 and A4. All leadership tests for the trolls must always be taken on the leadership of the champion if taken. This characters army can not include any goblins.
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Sob is there a Tomb King army you can not take? No so suck it up and learn to play better.
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Post by MajorSoB on Jul 5, 2007 17:31:08 GMT -5
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Brinan The Barbarian on Jul 5, 2007 19:22:55 GMT -5
wow, could that Orc be any worse?
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Post by boldo on Jul 5, 2007 23:25:00 GMT -5
No I tried hard to make it the worst character I could. After all I could not make any characters better than the other choices.
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Post by notsojazzyjeff on Jul 5, 2007 23:45:40 GMT -5
Did you ever come up with a horrid Beast character or am I stuck with the awful Daemon Prince?
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Post by johnboo on Jul 6, 2007 5:57:10 GMT -5
Did you ever come up with a horrid Beast character or am I stuck with the awful Daemon Prince? Well, you could always use Panyck the Manic! Nothing screams BROKEN as a leadership 6 General! I managed to pull of a draw vs jerry's dwarfs with this stunningly bad general!
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Post by johnboo on Jul 6, 2007 6:52:37 GMT -5
Another new Character Savage Orc Great Shamman on Wyvern with waagh paint, Skull wand of Kaloth, Warboss Imbad's Iron Gnashas 475 pts Level 3 or Level 4? Either way, the points dont add up for me. I get 465pts as a L3, 500 for a L4. Are we to assume we pay 10 points for the "benefit" of a troll champion?
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Post by MajorSoB on Jul 6, 2007 11:29:52 GMT -5
Sob is there a Tomb King army you can not take? As long as you asked, yes, I cannot take my Khalida Shooty Poison army of Death. I can take a shooty army ( well kinda since we have to worry about comp) but strength 3 bows without poison are bad. I wasnt really going to contemplate playing this army but you asked so I responded!
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Post by notsojazzyjeff on Jul 6, 2007 12:09:45 GMT -5
Yea, it's just that I have a nurgle themed army. Looks like I may just have to use the lvl 1 undivided Daemon Prince.[
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Post by mnemonic on Jul 13, 2007 22:24:15 GMT -5
just checking, but the tourney is at 10am? or....
lemme know,
Jerry
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Post by MajorSoB on Jul 14, 2007 14:15:53 GMT -5
You know the more I think about this tourney, the less I feel like playing. If anyone cares here are my reasons... 1) The Nemesis Crown characters. Yeah, I complained about them that is true, and I did it it a joking manner, but seriously these are the worse characters around and the way they are being used makes them evern worse. Here is a link... nemesis.us.games-workshop.com/hobby/gaming/usscenarios/drampersonae/default.htmNotice at the bottom of the second paragraph, it says the person may include this special character if both parties agree, no where does it say must include. Including these characters not only makes my army mediocre, it also makes it impossible for my son to filed a playable army. Let's see... He has to play the goblin shaman. Does that mean that no other unit in the army can have higher leadership that that character and according to our rules it must be used as the general ( again our rules, not GW's). So that means no Orcs or Black Orc units for him, boy that should be fun. Oh I forgot, in reaction to this we created the savage orc on a wyvern, wow what a hunk of crap, yeah that makes me want to help him try to hide a 500pt turd in his army then have fun playing it. We dont own enough models to do the all goblin army or a model to represent that hot steaming pile of crap on a wyvern. What was the idea with these characters anyway, to see who can do the best with stupid gimped characters leading their army? On to me, I wouldnt mind my Tomb Kings character so much if I could sleeper out the chariots like the character suggests. But I can't which lead me to... 2) Comp. I understand we are trying to keep it fair and fun, but the comp system being used makes everything dumb and bland. Correct me if I wrong but I get slammed if I try to spend ALOT of points and dominate magic to quote GW... (page 76-Tomb Kings Book) "The characters in the Tomb Kings army are vital to the army's sucess - after all, the army is standing only due to the incatations of the Liche Priest and the formidable will of the Tomb Kings and Princes. This is the way that the army was designed - so don't be shy of using all the magical items and incantations at your disposal - that is what they are meant to be there for!" Again, I cannot take a Tomb King which restricts my access to powerful weapons and due to comp I cannot take enough Liche Priest to dominate in magic. Yeah I know what you are about to say, but I am paying the points for it, so tell me why I cant take it. Mybe [;ayer comp scores would be good, or like GW GT's, if its in the codex, its legal? 3) Back to the characters... Did anyone read the Nemesis Booklet? It mentions both Grimgor Ironhide and Karl Franz but we can't play either. By excluding characters that we don't like we are no better than The Coyote's Den, but hey if that is what we have decided who am I to say you are wrong? Bottom line, I probably won't play tomorrow. I like fantasy ( yeah 40K is better but we can argue that another time) but am not interested in playing this toned down restrictive version. Sorry hope its fun for the four people that might show.
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Post by johnboo on Jul 14, 2007 16:12:00 GMT -5
just checking, but the tourney is at 10am? or.... lemme know, Jerry I believe so - first game is at 11?
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Post by johnboo on Jul 14, 2007 16:21:30 GMT -5
You know the more I think about this tourney, the less I feel like playing. If anyone cares here are my reasons... <snip whining> So dont play! Dayum, you sound like a lil girl! Waahh - I have to take a level 4 goblin shaman! Waahh, I have to take a beatdown tomb prince.... Now, why does it make a difference what general you take, anyway? You dont win when you have free choice of general, maybe changing it up might do you some good! A little creativeness and you can come up with some serious lists. Just not the exact list YOU want to play. There is no rule saying orcs or black orc units cannot be taken. They are not dependant on what the general is.
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