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Post by Iron Warrior on Feb 6, 2006 16:18:22 GMT -5
Whiney little children if you ask me. If you took the effort to photo copy the stupid codex Then you should be able to use. As far as im concerned the new codex that Tom had was the current and legal codex, That guy was just a whiner.
So someone got to use the brand new codex, it happens all the time. happened with the bug codex, the marine codex, the templar codex...now the tau. I expect it to happen again. Someone got inventive copied the codex before the offical release, oh well. I dont see it as a huge deal.
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Post by Wolf Lord Snorville on Feb 6, 2006 16:22:41 GMT -5
Nah, I just think that Tommy's skills with the cock are legendary in syracuse
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Post by MajorSoB on Feb 6, 2006 17:28:45 GMT -5
Hey, I had a good time, but there has to be something wrong with the cosmic balance when Brian is playing for the title in the last round, just my $.02...
(Got your back Tommy on the Syrcause site.)
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Post by MajorSoB on Feb 6, 2006 17:47:59 GMT -5
SIDE NOTE...
WHERE THE HELL WERE YOU DRAGON??? SEEMS LIKE ANYTIME THERE IS A NORMAL TOURNEY, YOU HID IN YOUR CAVE. DOES MRS. DRAGON HAVE YOU BY YOUR OLD WRINKLY LITTLE DRAGONBALLS AND WONT LET YOU OUT??? LOL
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Post by Iron Warrior on Feb 6, 2006 18:15:08 GMT -5
hahaha Tom and Doug stirring things up on the Syracuse board. Its rather entertaining. Maybe from now on , on all of our tournamnets we should have a disclaimer: All current editions of the codexes will be in use EVEN if its a photo copy. If it happens to be a future rendition of a codex soon to be release in a month or too, that would be ok as well so long as you can show evidence of the copyright and the permission given to you in the form of a letter with the header form the GW CEO and signature of at least 3 witnesses one of which must be your mom. Just reminds me of the time we all went down there with painted armies some of us even stayed up the night before to finsish the painting up and we get down there and a few people didnt have FULLY painted armies and they were still allowed to play.
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Post by deathwing on Feb 6, 2006 18:56:07 GMT -5
I can understand using a photo-copied codex at a store for fun till the real one comes out but using a photo-copied edition of a yet released codex at a store specific hosted tournament is B.S and quite frankly embarassing. Those involved in that tourney who weren't partial to that knowledge have every right to be upset. I would wager that if roles were reversed certain parties would be crying from Boldos as well.
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Post by MajorSoB on Feb 6, 2006 19:42:24 GMT -5
Good point Scout. I see both sides of this issue. All I can say is I used a LEGAL army, WRITTEN down, with a CURRENT and LEGAL codex (no photocopies) and oddly enough I had a good time. Too often I see people judging themselves now by if they had fun but if they won or lost. Aren't we missing the whole point of playing? I see the complaint against Tommy, all I am saying is that I would not have played that codex in anything other than a store tourney, but did it matter any? Let me check, no Tommy did not win....
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Post by Iron Warrior on Feb 6, 2006 19:46:55 GMT -5
What does it matter? Its going to be coming out in a month. Its the new rules and its the most recent edition of the codex. If you have it use them. In the official RTT rules it states that you must use the most up to date version of the rule and tom was.
The codex was pre-released to stores all over, like the GW store in syracuse (which I bet is where tom got it from as I didnt see a new Tau Codex at boldos. Maybe Millenium Games) They have had access to the codex proabbly longer than Tom did. They are just pissing and moan because they didnt think of it first.
I mean come on these are going to be the rules anyways why does 30 days make a diffrence? Oh wait you werent prepared to meet a "New Tau" army? *gasp*! You werent prepared to supe up against it!? Oh noes! What would be the reason that you would complain about something like this? I think it maybe that you loss and your blaming it on the new codex.
I recall a tournament at Altered States, right after the New Chaos codex came out, they were allowing BOTH versions of the rules since some people didnt have the new codex. RTT rules clearly state the newest rulesets will and must be used. I spent my cash on the new codex why can some people use the old on because they didnt for over the money to buy it?
Similar (but NOT identical) situation here. They had acess to it as did Tom. Tom just decided to use it and they (or he rather since there was only 1 syracuse player) decided not to.
I will admit though, most of use knew Tom had the new codex but some didnt know he was using it in the tournament, Nor did Boldo know....he's a fantasy player why would he care? hehe.
Honesty, whats the big deal?
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Post by dragons3 on Feb 6, 2006 19:56:52 GMT -5
DRAGONS STILL A ROCK STAR WANNA-BE, CAN'T PLAY MANY WEEKENDS. MAJOR S.O.B.: I SHALL BE PLAYING AT BOLDO'S ON MARCH 5th, FIRST TOURNEY OF THE MONTH,(IF YOU HAVE IT)! IF NOT, THEN THE COYOTE'S DEN HAS ONE THE SAME DAY. SO IF I PLAY AT THE DEN AND IT'S 1500 points, I NEED TO BUILD AN ILLEGAL ARMY with 3 LIBRARIANS, 1800 points AND CHANGE MY CODEX TO RE-ROLL MISS TO HITS ON 2's & 3'S. COYOTE'S DEN ALSO SCHEDULED A TOURNEY ON FEBRUARY 12th, VALENTINE'S DAY WEEKEND. THE LAST THING ON MY MIND THAT WEEKEND IS PLAYING ARMY MEN! CAN'T MAKE IT THURSDAY NIGHT THIS WEEK BECAUSE I'LL BE AT THE COMIX CAFE', BUT SHALL RETURN THE FOLLOWING WEEK. I JUST NEED TO PISS OFF SOMEBODY TO GET A MATCH! ;D ;D ;D THANKS FOR THE PLUG, TAKE CARE!
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Post by MajorSoB on Feb 6, 2006 21:34:27 GMT -5
NO PROB DRAGON. I JUST SAW RON POSTED THAT THERE IS A TOURNEY ON THE 12 AT THE DEN, AND SINCE I AM A GLUTTEN FOR PUNISHMENT I WILL BE THERE, PLUS THE WHOLE VALENTINES DAY STUFF IS A LOAD OF CRAP. "WOMEN ARE THE DEVIL BOBBY!!!" -Mama, THE WATER BOY
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Post by MajorSoB on Feb 6, 2006 21:38:48 GMT -5
HEY WHY TAKE ONLY 3 LIBRARIANS, CAN'T YOU TAKE 4??? I THINK YOU CAN TAKE AS MANY AS 6 SINCE THERE ARE 6 PYCHIC POWERS AS LONG AS EACH ONE ONLY HAS ONE POWER.
SEACREST OUT....
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Post by dragons3 on Feb 6, 2006 22:28:07 GMT -5
MAJOR S.O.B. SORRY, I'M AT THE WRONG WEBSITE, I THOUGHT THIS WAS BUST MY BALLS. COM OH! IT IS ;D ;D ;D 3 LIBRARIANS IN A TYRANID ARMY AS ELITE CHOICES, THEY WERE GENE STEALER'S THAT ATE BAD LIVERS FROM LIBRARIANS IN A SPACEMARINE ARMY AT THE BATTLE OF COY-YO-TOES-YO-TOES DENN. HEY, WHAT HAPPENED TO DUCK BOY40K? IS 1821 POINTS IN A 1500 POINT TOURNEY A SOFT SCORE? NOTE OF CHEESE, IF SOME ARMY HAS TO ATTACK THE CLOSEST ENEMY, THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU CAN MEASURE WITH A TAPE MEASURE. USE I POINTER OR A STRING OR SOMETHING ELSE. THIS HAPPENED AT BOLDO'S THURSDAY NIGHT. NO BIG DEAL, JUST FRIENDLY MEGA BATTLE GAME. WELL THAT'S IT FOR NOW,JUST GETTING THE TAKE ON THE NEXT TOURNEYS. GOING OVER TO CHECK RON'S NEW COYOTE THREAD. THANK FOR THE RESPONSE, FREE ZING FOR ME! ;D
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Post by Iron Warrior on Feb 6, 2006 23:27:16 GMT -5
Tom...I remember my first thoughts of you and I would think this person thinks the same as I did back then. Since then my opinion changed BUT I cannot ignore the fact that what he says has some merit. From time to time we forget that we represent a Team, and yes one person can ruin the reputation of what many have created. Im not saying that you were incorrect in the use of the tau codex or interpretations of the rule or even the nit picking, but when it halts an event like a Syracuse-Rochester tournament then I cant help think something is amiss. Im sure you will do what you think is nessasary. I do think they are being way too judgemental about one person and stereo typing our team because of it, but it does happen. When someone does something that makes them look bad, they make their team look bad, that just how people think, as unfortunate as it is. Tom i dont nessasarily agree with them but I can see where they are coming from.
BTW this Dan person owes me a box of gaurdians! ;D
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Post by Catachan Colonel on Feb 6, 2006 23:59:42 GMT -5
He is entitled to his opinion of me of course. and you all have labled me with dubious tactic before.
This original problem seemed to spring from me nit picking a rule about a drone disembarking from a devilfish.
The tau player opposing me said the rule clearly states you can only do this "in the beginning" of the movement phase.
i had never heard the "in the beginning" part before and after doing the nit picky thing of "Looking it up" hey look it was not in there. (In either tau codex) The real problem came when i then used the jetpacks "even if you dont assault move"
He claimed you dont get to use that when you disembark a moving transport. even though thats not anywhere to be found.
They may claim that i am nitpicking the rules. Fine i can handle criticism. butthey are just incerting word into the rules which simply are not there. (And therefore changing their meaning entirely)
This all started because someone called me on a rules question and was wrong. I could propose the compromise... If they stop being wrong so much i will stop pointing it out. (who am i kidding i am sure i would find something)
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Post by MajorSoB on Feb 7, 2006 0:05:01 GMT -5
... If they stop being wrong so much i will stop pointing it out. (who am i kidding i am sure i would find something) Tommy, I love you, f*ggy pink belt and all!!!!!!
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