Fall Out

[Garou24]

I have 2500 points of Nids at my disposal. If my hand built Tyranid bio titan is complete it could join the fun.

[Iron Dragon]

how about eldar?
they're fruity, and made of paper, but we do have a ton of guys with eldar/dark eldar armies, and if we had dark eldar players that wanted to play, well the fluff supports the two working together against a common enemy.

we also probably have the largest number of well painted armies in Eldar stuff.
and the largest number of apocalypse stuff in eldar, albeit Jay and Courtneys.

they could play against imperials, bugs or chaos easily.

and the chaos boyz could get a chance to whack the all-powerfull Vampire Hunter again.

we have plenty of chaos super heavies. we have plenty of Apoc. only guard super heavies.

[MallSecurity]

May 20, 2008 19:08:32 GMT -5 Garou24 said:

I have 2500 points of Nids at my disposal. If my hand built Tyranid bio titan is complete it could join the fun.

That would be cool to see

[Iron Warrior]

Soleman I hope this Nid vs Imperials goes through, becuase I am going to line up across from you and wipe you off the table. ;D

[Soleman]

May 21, 2008 0:25:22 GMT -5 Iron Warrior said:

Soleman I hope this Nid vs Imperials goes through, becuase I am going to line up across from you and wipe you off the table. ;D

You will try my friend, but the endless swarm will always prevail in the end. ;D

[Lord Dacius]

So is it decidedly Bugs Vs Imperials?

[zig]

Assuming that the date is going to work for me I'd be in for playing. Depending on whether things need to be painted or not, I have between 3000 and 6000 points in Tyranids. Barbed Heirodule and Malefactor are painted, Trygon will be finished soon, Heirophant might be painted in time, depending on how far out we're talking. Definitely good for taking out a few measly Baneblades. ;D

Any idea when this might happen?

[MallSecurity]

How does the Weekend after labor day sound to everyone?

[Soleman]

I will arrange to switch of kid weekends to be available, but let's make sure we can make this work and have confirmation on a place to play enough committed players, etc before I make the arrangements ok?

[Iron Dragon]

how does 3k pts in walking sisters sound to you all? mwahahhaaahaaa!

[ccourtney]

I always thought a large "+" shaped board would be cool to play on, with the Tyranids coming from all 4 sides at an Imperial strong point in the middle.

[Ranger Dude]

That sounds like an awesome idea Courtney. I like it.

[Iron Warrior]

Considering the teams, I think it would be a bad layout in favor of the nids.

Imperials will be force to split thier fire 4 diffrent ways while nids only need to concentrate one way. Also if the Nid players were any bit smart (and that has yet to be seen) they would stack one side heavy with fast choices as to get to one side much faster than the rest so they can minimize the imperials shooting of the other 3 approaches. This sounds like a sluaghter fest in the bugs favor. Also a few well placed lictors could spell doom for one or possibly 2 of the approaches if done correctly. Also imagine the Havoc templates would cause if 4-6 armies had to deploy in a limtied area while the Nids on the outsides wouldnt have to worry about that as much.

As an Imperial Commander, If my city was surround on 4 sides I would consider it a loss and move on to a more defendable location like a cliff face or entrenchment with its back to a mountain or fissure.

Also it was mentioned that Matt would like to run an entire table full of city buildings so as to create the effect of the armies fighting in a Huge City.

But if other Imperial Commanders think that they can defend the city from all 4 sides and a majority agree. I will attempt the defense as well. Assuming matt doesnt want to run his entire city fight board.

[ccourtney]

The board layout was just a starting point, you would have to make the game objectives and set up rules even things out. You could have the game be a 4-vs-4 and force the nid players to each set up on a different flank, evening out the attack. If one of these players stacked his force with fasts as you said it would be a limited size, not all 4 armies worth. As far as the Lictors, as long as they didn't take a dozen of them they would be manageable. The template issue would hopefully be resolved by the marines making some form of attempt to leave the center and take an objective that is outside their deployment zone (so they could win) I would hope that a portion of each marine army would be deep striking, flank marching etc. to make the game for them less "static" and actually have a movement and assault phase. I'm sure any board type you use will have challenges to try and even out the advantages, Matt just needs to work 'em out.

There is also the thought of making the Nids start in the center (surrounding a Hive) and have the marines on the attack, that would almost be more fun to see and not so typical. If you want to have to board be city you still could as the hive mind loves to infiltrate the populated areas.

[Catachan Colonel]

it was just before the nid book came out that C4, Foser, Kdawg & myself played a completely surrounded senerio.

We had an absolute blast. I think that in apocalypse this may work out even better. I dont think we noticed any strong siding areas that was more questionable than any normal game. We gave the defenders an abolute ton of defences baracades and buildings.

it was suppose to be a historical refight of Mccragge, lots of gaurd and all the first company i could squeeze in.

All four of us wanted to try it again some day. (Especally after the nid book came out.)

we were suppose to do a part 2 where the nid survivors were assaulted by 2 full chompanies of ultramarines. One a battle company one all tacticals and speeders (Also historical refight)

but i digress, i would be happy to try the surrounded senerio again. I think that it can really work. Maybe Dacius walls would be useful.