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Post by Catachan Colonel on Jan 26, 2006 0:09:59 GMT -5
Bush is better if you ignore things like the pitiful economy and that we are stuck in a war that we cant get out of, and that we went from a buget surplus to the largest deficit in us history and the erosion of a little thing called the bill of rights.
Oh how I long for the day when our worst concern over our president was not "Will I be jailed tomorrow without trial because someone thinks I am a terrorist and this president does not believe in due process?".
It was "i wonder if he did get a hummer?"
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Post by Wolf Lord Snorville on Jan 26, 2006 0:31:09 GMT -5
I'm not that board to name/ look up 13, how about one! Ord. pen result. Roll 2d6 and take the highest. Can you name one average? Uhm... leadership is kinda based on the average of 2d6. It's just represented as a sum. Ooh... Eldar vehicles... prety sure they have a 2d6 keep the lowest. Oh wait... Terminators in 2nd edition got to roll 2d6 and add it together.. so I say all my explosions get to add up the d6's and have a huge @ss explosion. There.. now I made up my own multiple dice rules for pen 6's too.
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Post by Iron Warrior on Jan 26, 2006 1:34:27 GMT -5
Ok, here ya go, rules right from the BBB:
page 67, under Damage rolls: Roll a D6 for each shot that glanced or penetrated the vehicles armor and look up the result on the appropriate Damage table below. Note that there are seperate tables for glancing, penetrating and ordance hits.
Then there is the tables.
-I dont see where it says apply all results at once or even apply all results. -I dont see anywhere a process or an order in which you apply these results.
SO: Once the roll is made the result is then applied, simple logic.
And you have to use logic here...No where does it say pick the best result or pick the worst result. It just says roll the result. So say you roll all at once and get a vehicle destroyed. shaken, stuned and immobilized. Are you going to take the time of figure out what happens to the vehicle or are you going to say, well its destroyed so the rest dont quite matter at this point?
ALSO: since results compound each other it suggests you roll in seqeuntial order (BUT i will concede this point at the moment, which was my original rebuttle) So moving on-
THUS: Say you roll a pen 6 (or pehaps you roll several) THE moment you roll for the radius of the explosion is the moment you are applying the result. SINCE you look up the result of a pen 6 and it tells you the result which is:
VEHICLE EXPLODES! The vehicles fuel and ammo detonate, ripping the vehicle apart in a spectacular explosion. Flaming debris is scatter in D6" in every direction, measured from the vehicles edges. Models in the range suffer 1 wound on a roll of 4+ (Saving throws are allowed), but other vehicles struck by this flaming debris are unaffected. (Heres the important part) The exploded vehicle is removed and should be replaced with an area of diffacult ground representing scattered wreckage or a crater.
So once you roll for the first radius of the explosion the vehicle is removed from the table no longer having any effect on the game.
No where does it say you must apply all results on page 76, Or that you even apply all result at once. In fact it seems to suggest the exact opposite. But again, i will concede that point at this time.
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Post by Sanguinary on Jan 26, 2006 8:02:05 GMT -5
Here is how I usually play it, not saying it is right.
1.) Say I roll a 2 pens and a glance. 2.) I say my 2 red dice are the pen and the white dice is the glance. 3.) Roll the dice and apply the results. Say it is a 6, 6, 6, thus a glancing 6 and 2 pen 6s. 4.) Now I say we use the one of the pen 6s since it is the most powerful result and roll for explosion.
Now I haven't been playing as long as many people, but this is how I have played it everytime at Boldos. So are we saying that we are going to start rolling each result individually until we get a result that won't allow us to go any further?
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Post by Ranger Dude on Jan 26, 2006 12:26:17 GMT -5
Even rolling them all together, you still apply them individually. Multiple weapon destroyed have rules stating what happens when you get them. Multiple stuns or shakens don't compound since the effect is already in play. Oh wait...doesn't that apply to destroyed as well. Don't compound because the vehicle is already dead. Gee...guess that means you can't explode it twice.
And to take a rule straight from your own post McCommander
Rules set one: "For each shot look up result and apply"
So you would look up the result for pen 6 (not really since we all have it memorized) and then apply it. Move on to next result. Feel like looking it up again...go ahead. And as mdentioned before, you can apply it to the vehicle in my box.
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Post by Wolf Lord Snorville on Jan 26, 2006 14:55:06 GMT -5
Poll... nuff sed
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Post by MajorSoB on Jan 26, 2006 15:18:34 GMT -5
Holy stubborness Batman, are we still argueing this d**n near irrelavent point?
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Post by Wolf Lord Snorville on Jan 26, 2006 15:30:01 GMT -5
Roll 2d6, find the average... if it's higher than 3.5, then yes we're still arguing this creative topic.
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Post by Ranger Dude on Jan 26, 2006 21:40:18 GMT -5
and the argument goes on....
Actually, I think the point was conceded in the poll, so we're just messing around at this point.
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